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I was expelled against my will I spent

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uh a lot of money and a lot of time

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trying to avoid expulsion on lawyers and

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all the rest at my expulsion

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hearing uh Mr Michael foot the previous

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leader of the party Mr Ben the greatest

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uh labor parliamentarian of all time and

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Mr Corbin uh were my uh character

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Witnesses if you like asking the

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national executive not to expel me so of

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course uh I regretted uh being expelled

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but having been expelled I wasn't going

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to uh as it were retire from the field

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so I continued my battle in another form

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and as you implied in your introduction

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I did tell Mr Blair on the day I was

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expelled that he would Ru the day and

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they Liv to Ru the day but it goes

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without saying that Jeremy Corbin has my

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absolute uh

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loyalty and support and love uh and I

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wish him uh every success is being a

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good and honest man

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unelectable I doubt that and if it is

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what would we prefer a bad dishonest man

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would that be better if uh if that were

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held to be electable what's the point in

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being elected for bad intentions or

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dishonest purposes so I have faith in

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the British people and the contest when

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it comes if God spares him

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2020 uh will be a very interesting one

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and it will be a different one because

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David Cameron will have retired and the

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conservatives having laid waste to the

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public services and proved even more

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divisive in their second term than they

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were able to be in their first will be

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quite an enfeebled uh political force I

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think and their leader will either be

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George or should I say Gideon Osborne

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for that is his name uh Gideon Osborne

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of the Bullington club uh I know that's

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a rival uh outfit to yours uh but it's

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uh it just isn't but okay but it it is

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uh it describes him I think he's a pasty

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faed product of the of the English

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ruling Elite and I don't think that cuts

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a lot of mustard in the country or if

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there's a crash in in 2018 which some

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predict there will be the leader is

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likely to be Boris Johnson also of Eaton

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and the bulington club uh I think Jeremy

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Corbin against Boris Johnson or Jeremy

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Corbin against George Osborne uh will be

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a much closer contest than the pundits

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would like you to believe here and now

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and this brings me on to my next

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question which is Julian Assange um as

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you probably aware this Union voted

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recently and held a referendum on

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whether or not we would give a platform

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to Mr Assange and the overwhelming

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majority of our membership voted in

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favor and Mr Assange is shedu to speak

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here by video link on the 11th of

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November you came under intense fire

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from anti- rape campaigners over your

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comments in relation to the allegations

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that were leveled against Mr Sange and

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you said that they have no basis because

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having sex with a woman when she is

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asleep is not rape you then defended

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these sexual allegations assault

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allegations against Mr Assange by

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stating that they amounted to no more

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than bad sexual EA

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I just wanted to ask you more bit bit

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more about that and to ask you how you

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feel justified in defending that

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position when the law in this country is

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very clear in noting that consent is

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required every time someone has

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sex uh well that's that last point is

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actually not the case you're obviously

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not a law student I actually am okay you

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are in that case in in that

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case in in that case we've got problems

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uh it is a defense against an accusation

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of rape that reasonable grounds to

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assume consent that happens to be the

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law Julian Assan should receive the

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Nobel Peace

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Prize Julian Assange has performed a

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service to the

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world to those of in acquiring mind as I

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presume all of you are or you wouldn't

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be here to every journalist in the world

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to every broadcaster in the world Julian

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Assange ought to be a hero and the

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reason he's in this fix and it is a fix

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I can assure you his situation in the

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Ecuador embassy in a single room for all

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these years now is a real fix

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the reason that he's in this fix is

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nothing whatsoever to do with

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allegations and they are only

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allegations made after the fact long

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after the fact uh by women that he uh

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slept with in

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Sweden they are everything to do with

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the determination of the United States

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of America to do to Julian Assange what

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they've done to Chelsea Manning to get

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him in front of a secretly assembled

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grand jury and send him to prison for

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the rest of his life I

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regret the words that I used in sticking

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up for Julian

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Assange I regret the fact that those

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words the way that I expressed my

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position have given my enemies

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opportunities to attack me and attack

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him and I'm sorry that I upset some

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people in including some that I I

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personally

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respect uh and know uh that I gave them

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offense by the way in which I expressed

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my view but my view doesn't

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change that aange is being set up set up

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so that he can be extradited to the

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States no means no in sexual Affairs

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rape is a hideous

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crime that should be

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prosecuted and if convicted punished

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most

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severely rape is a hideous

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thing but Julian Assange has never been

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charged with rape has never been charged

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actually with any sexual offense let

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alone convicted of one and I'm therefore

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glad that the Cambridge students uh did

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what they should have done done in the

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referendum in the last few days and that

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Julian will be able to speak for himself

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to you on the 11th of November okay

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moving on to the next topic then um in

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February 2013 you walked out of a debate

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in Oxford on the motion Israel should

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withdraw immediately from the West Bank

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when you found out that the opponent in

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the debate was Israeli do you regret

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doing that and do you think it was right

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to refuse to talk to someone just

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because he was Israeli in that situation

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well I talk to Israelis all the time in

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fact one particular Israeli perhaps the

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finest Israel I speak to almost every

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day uh Professor Elan papy of now exter

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University formerly professor of History

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hia University is an Israeli Jew with

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whom I work very closely so it has

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nothing to do with the nationality of

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the person involved I work with lots of

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Israelis but my policy is no recognition

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normalization so I cannot behave towards

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an Israeli supporter of the apartheid

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state uh in the way that I would deal

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with either an Israeli opponent of the

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aparte state or a citizen of any other

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country how much of a charge sheet have

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you assembled here well it's not a

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charge sheet it's just questions it

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feels a bit like a trial well it's not

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it's questions yeah uh uh you know there

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are some contemporary burning British

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issues that I really hope we have time

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was in the labor party in a luxurious

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position uh that I don't really care

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not I don't see it as a

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career uh I I stand by what I believe in

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by I obey my conscience even if I was

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the last man standing who believed what

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I was saying I'd still say it whether it

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led to defeat or Victory is a secondary

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matter you do know that the BBC is the

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British State TV if the BBC asked me to

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have a show on the BBC I would of course

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accept it on the provisor that nobody

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told me what to say or what not to say

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and that's what I do on press tv it's

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what I do with my wife on on Russia

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today we have a weekly show there no one

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has ever would ever and if they did it

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would be the end

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ever asked me told me what to say and

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what not to say so frankly I'll take a

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television platform on any television

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station even Fox

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News didn't try to tell me what to say

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and what not to say well that was just a

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stream of ad hominum personal abuse that

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was one insult after another one

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Distortion after another one quote taken

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out of context after another so candidly

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response I have no problem about working

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with Israelis who are against the aparte

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state my problem is aord

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recognition to Israeli supporters of

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aparte you're an intelligent audience

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you must be able to discern the

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difference between these categories so I

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went to the debate believing that I'd be

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debating against a supporter of Israel

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when I discovered that I was debating

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against an Israeli supporter of a

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partite of military age who I now

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realize I now know served in the Israeli

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military I have no intention of

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affording recognition with such uh to

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such uh people any more than I would

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have done with a buor supporting a party

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in South Africa I'm not sure why you're

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fixated on this there are plenty of

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other people that he could debate with

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just not with me um if what you believe

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well clearly you do believe that what

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this country desires what this country

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in fact needs is conviction politics and

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people who speak the truth and mean what

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they say and it's undeniable that that

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is what you do but if if that is what

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you do why is it in case the country has

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not seen fit but your constituency has

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not seen fit to support you and reelect

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you but I've been elected six times to

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the House of Commons twice as a respect

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Member of Parliament in rock in in Rock

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Solid labor seats and I'm running for

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mayor of London and I'm doing quite well

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I promise this so let's postpone that

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question uh until next May shall

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we